【樓主】財(cái)神爺2012-11-25 19:07
» 這是真還是假哦？？？？？------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------WASHINGTON: At least 20 US states have filed petitions to secede following the re-election of Barack Obama.華盛頓：隨著巴拉克•奧巴馬的成功連任，美國至少20個(gè)州提出脫離聯(lián)邦的請(qǐng)求。 Following the re-election, several petitions surfaced requesting the Obama administration to peacefully grant the applied state to withdraw from the United States of America in order to create their own government.隨著連任成功，幾個(gè)請(qǐng)?jiān)父〕鏊妫髪W巴馬政府和平接受幾個(gè)州要求退出美利堅(jiān)合眾國以建立他們自己的政府的請(qǐng)求。 Louisiana was the first state to file a petition followed by Texas.路易斯安那州是第一個(gè)提出請(qǐng)求的州，緊隨其后的是德克薩斯州。 States with secession-related petitions on the White House website no include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina and Tennessee.在白宮網(wǎng)站上提交有關(guān)脫離聯(lián)邦請(qǐng)?jiān)傅闹莶话ò⒗婉R州、阿肯色州、科羅拉多州、佛羅里達(dá)州、喬治亞州、印第安納州、肯塔基州、密歇根州密西西比州、密蘇里州、蒙大拿州、新澤西州、紐約、北卡羅來納州、北達(dá)科他州、俄勒岡州南卡羅來納州和田納西州。Reader CommentsThis hue & cry is only in this part of the world otherwise there is nothing in U>S> media. Is it not strange. Most people do not know that U.S. is the only country where where any State constitutionally has the right to secede or revolt without being labelled as traitor. That is why since the United States of America came into being 200 years before no state seceded instead more states (4-5) joined. It is a lesson to the countries of third world.這種調(diào)子和哭喊只存在于世界的一部分，否則美國媒體就沒啥可播的了。這奇怪么。大多數(shù)人都不知道美國是唯一一個(gè)，其所有的任意一個(gè)州從憲法上來說，都有權(quán)利脫離或反抗聯(lián)邦而不會(huì)被貼上背叛者標(biāo)簽的國家。這就是自從美利堅(jiān)合眾國誕生200年來，不但沒有州脫離聯(lián)邦，反而有更多的州(4 到5個(gè))加入聯(lián)邦的原因。這對(duì)第三世界的一些國家來說，是個(gè)值得學(xué)習(xí)的例子。khizir farooqiPakistanHistory repeats itself, first as a tragedy (US Civil War) then as a comedy (Petition to Secede).歷史總是相似的，以悲劇開場(美國內(nèi)戰(zhàn))，然后以喜劇謝幕(請(qǐng)?jiān)该撾x聯(lián)邦)。AhmedKazakhstanWhat a bunch of nonsense. Zero States have petitioned to secede. However, people claiming to be from all 50 states have signed onto petitions available on a White House website asking that their states be allowed to secede. They can't, of course. We fought a Civil War to establish that. It's settled.都是廢話。沒有州提出脫離聯(lián)邦的請(qǐng)求。只是一些人自己在白宮網(wǎng)站上簽署脫離聯(lián)邦的請(qǐng)?jiān)笗�，要求他們所在的州被允許脫離聯(lián)邦。當(dāng)然他們不能脫離聯(lián)邦。我們打贏內(nèi)戰(zhàn)以建立這樣的體制。這是定好了的。-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：chen_lt-------------David SalmonUSAMan It will be so nice to be freed from the albatross that is liberalism. Ever take a look at the demographics of the liberals. Its the Naive and the stupid looking for a handout from the responsible. and the responsible are out numbered now. Thats your real reason we want to leave.兄弟，能甩開自由主義者的沉重的包袱真是太好了�？纯醋杂芍髁x者的人口數(shù)據(jù)統(tǒng)計(jì)。只有愚蠢和天真的人才會(huì)想從政府那里獲得施舍，而現(xiàn)在的政府人員已經(jīng)超出了應(yīng)該有的人數(shù)。那是我們想離開的真正的原因。AaronUSAevery action has a reaction, USA has caused bifurcation disastrous in many parts of the world....善惡終有報(bào)啊。美國給世界上的很多地方都造成了災(zāi)難性的分歧amer nadeemPakistanThis befouled cesspool called AmeriKa doesnt deserve the blood of those intelligent enough to see it's time to put down this treasonous government. They are MORE THAN WElCOME to take the cowards and fools bad-mouthing secession with them,...PLEASE take them with you, we don't WANT them anymore than we want your traitorous asses stinking up the air around us! SECEDE....SECEDE.....SECEDE!!! Secede or suffer a Bolshevik Revolution right here in AmeriKa...we're this close to it at this moment.這個(gè)被稱為美利堅(jiān)的骯臟的糞坑不值得那些明智的人為之流血奮斗，這足以看出，是時(shí)候該推到這個(gè)背信棄義的政府了。他們非常歡迎懦夫和傻瓜與他們分裂。。。請(qǐng)你帶上他們吧，正如我們不想讓你叛逆的臭氣污染我們周圍的空氣一樣，我們也不要他們！脫離。。脫離。。脫離�。�！脫離聯(lián)邦或者在這兒開展一場布爾什維克革命。。。。這一刻，我們離它如此之近。-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：chen_lt-------------paschnUSACorrect. If you have by right the ability to secede, then you need not ask permission, and neither should you ask permission by petition. It only supports the idea that you do not have that right. What a state should do, instead, is bring it as a referendum before the citizens of the state. If it passes, it is enacted. The state is an independent sovereign political body; perhaps it has a relationship similar to Puerto Rico or Guam or the Marshall Islands.對(duì)的。如果從法律上，你有權(quán)脫離聯(lián)邦，那么你就不需要得到允許，同樣你也不應(yīng)寫請(qǐng)?jiān)笗?qǐng)求許可。這只適用于那些你沒有這種權(quán)利的情況。一個(gè)(想要脫離聯(lián)邦的)州應(yīng)該做什么呢，相反，它應(yīng)該在本州的公民中，針對(duì)這個(gè)問題進(jìn)行一次全民表決。如果表決通過了，(脫離聯(lián)邦)這事就定了。該州是一個(gè)擁有獨(dú)立主權(quán)的政治體；也許，它(與聯(lián)邦的關(guān)系)類似于波多黎各或關(guān)島或馬紹爾群島。chrisUSASo in other words, there are conservatives in at least twenty states who will throw a big temper tantrum when they don't get their way. It's funny, in an idiotic sort of way, that the people who spent four years saying Obama was destroying America are now filing petitions to do exactly that.換句話說，在至少20個(gè)州里，有這么一些保守派分子，當(dāng)他們的訴求得不到主張的時(shí)候，他們就大發(fā)雷霆。真有趣，以一種白癡的方式，花了四年時(shí)間宣揚(yáng)奧巴馬正在摧毀美國論調(diào)的人現(xiàn)在提出請(qǐng)?jiān)笗『镁褪窃诖輾绹?------------譯者：貓記 審核者：tvenana-------------Reader CommentsIf the states secede the only ones that will have to pay would be the governors, congressmen and senators and they sure aren't going to do that. This will die down by the time the holidays roll around. The Goyim will be ready to save the stores by spending billions on Christmas. They want to make a statment they should boycott Christmas and they would fold. When will the people learn we can take control but they have act in unison如果這些州脫離聯(lián)邦，唯一需要付出代價(jià)的將只有州長，國會(huì)議員和參議員，他們肯定不會(huì)這么做的。隨著假期的來臨，這一切都將消失。異教徒們(譯者注：猶太人用語、貶義，不信猶太教的人。)正準(zhǔn)備在圣誕節(jié)的時(shí)候去商店血拼購物。他們想發(fā)表聲明說他們應(yīng)該抵制圣誕節(jié)，但是他們徹底失敗。人民什么時(shí)候才能學(xué)會(huì)我們可以擁有主導(dǎo)權(quán)？但是他們已經(jīng)聯(lián)合起來行動(dòng)了。joe blowChechnyaThere is a better solution than this. Read the commentary "What Americans Need to Know About Death Squads" and get the model legislation to prohibit the operation of death enacted in your State. The model legislation is incorporated or attached to the article depending on where you find it posted. The most readable format is on the PPJ Gazette web site. The life you save may be your own. James Roger Brown Sociologist, Intelligence Collection and Analysis Methodologist有個(gè)比這更好的解決方法。讀讀“美國人需要知道敢死隊(duì)”的評(píng)論并通過立法禁止你所在的州頒布這種自尋死路的做法。這種立法模式可能就存在于這篇文章里面，或者附加在文章后面，這取決于你找到它在哪里被發(fā)布。最易讀的格式就發(fā)表在PPJ公報(bào)的網(wǎng)站上。你拯救的可能就是你自己的命。 James Roger Brown Sociologist，情報(bào)收集和分析方法論者-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：Red___Sword-------------James Roger BrownUSALeave voting to the educated people who can tell the difference between a bought and paid for puppet and an honorable man with a Congressional voting record that speaks for itself. You missed your U-turn when you failed to get Ron Paul elected. The globalists have taken over and the coup happened in 2000 with the Supreme court electing GWB.把投票權(quán)留給那些受過良好教育，能分辨出買賣傀儡之間的區(qū)別的人；留給那些有著本身就能說明問題的國會(huì)投票記錄的令人尊敬的人。當(dāng)Ron Paul競選失敗是，你就已經(jīng)回不了頭了。全球主義者們已經(jīng)接管一切，政變就發(fā)生在2000年最高法院選舉GWB的時(shí)候。Mr. SmartypantsUSAAnne, Take your military, your (toothless) border patrol, your federal funding...They can keep the taxes in Texas that they used to send to the corrupt Feds, you can keep your IRS, your EPA, your TSA, and even Big Bird...etc, etc.. Wish I lived in a state that had the guts enough to do as Texas...People are tired of your liberal, corrupt govt. and their fradulent "elections". Wake up baby before you loose all of your freedoms and sit there stunned wondering what happened.Anne，帶上你的軍隊(duì)，你的(無牙的)邊境巡邏隊(duì)，你的聯(lián)邦基金。。。。他們能將原來上交給腐敗的聯(lián)邦政府的稅收留在德州，你能保留你的稅務(wù)局，你的環(huán)保局，你的運(yùn)輸安全管理局，甚至“大雕”衛(wèi)星。。等等。。希望我所在的州也跟德州一樣有足夠的勇氣做出這一切。。。人們已經(jīng)厭倦了自由派的腐敗政府和它們欺世盜名的“選舉”。在失去你所有的自由并坐在那里驚訝地想知道到底發(fā)生了什么事之前，醒醒吧寶貝。-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：Red___Sword-------------PiffUSATexas will be taken over by the mexican drug cartels in a week if they secede so i dont even see why they want to.如果德州脫離聯(lián)邦，一周之內(nèi)，德州就會(huì)被墨西哥的販毒集團(tuán)所控制。因?yàn)槲疑踔敛幻靼姿麄優(yōu)槭裁聪胍@么做。Thomas FrazierUSAWhat a bunch of meatheads. It wont work. It is a delusion. As Roosevelt astutely said, "the appearance of reality, for reality." There is nothing TEXAS can do to secede from the US corporation. If TEXAS wants to be only Texas, a Nation and Republic unto itself, it is not accomplished by petition. When one wants to stop going to a whore house, one does not go to the brothel to leave, one just never goes back. This delusion is just a sad example of the loss of legal memory in America.真是一群呆瓜。這起不了作用，它就是個(gè)幻想。正如羅斯福說的，“面對(duì)現(xiàn)實(shí)，才能看清現(xiàn)實(shí)�！睕]有什么能讓德州脫離聯(lián)邦。如果德州就想成為德州，想自己成立一個(gè)國家，一個(gè)共和國，這并不取決于請(qǐng)?jiān)笗�。�?dāng)一個(gè)人想停止去妓院，他并不是去了再離開，而是不再回來。這個(gè)幻想正是美國法律缺失的一個(gè)反面例子。AnonymousUSAWow REALLY? What the hell are they trying to do now start a civil war here, this is insane. I really don't know what the military is waiting for they need to go arrest Obummer for his Benghazi treason, and the banksters for all their fraud and be done with it. Then we can get back to our happy place on the planet.喔，真的么？他們現(xiàn)在到底想要做什么？打內(nèi)戰(zhàn)么？真是瘋狂，我真不清楚軍隊(duì)到底在等什么？他們應(yīng)該以他的班加西叛國罪逮捕奧巴馬(譯者注：文中單詞是打錯(cuò)了吧？)， 以欺詐罪逮捕銀行家們并了結(jié)一切。然后我們就能回歸我們?cè)谶@個(gè)星球上的快樂的地方繼續(xù)生活啦。-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：Red___Sword-------------Karla ValenzuelaUSA"I pledge allegiance to the flag and to the Republic for which it stands"? When did we change from a Republic to a Democracy? Show democracy in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence? A Democracy too often leads to fascism. A Republic is all about law, a majority (democracy)is easily cheated. What? congress lie? To us? Oh, lets see. We could start with the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, 9/11/2001, WMD/Iraq...“我宣誓忠于國旗和它所代表的共和國”？我們什么時(shí)候從一個(gè)共和國變?yōu)榱艘粋�(gè)民主國家？憲法、人權(quán)法案和獨(dú)立宣言中展現(xiàn)民主了么？民主主義常常導(dǎo)致法西斯主義。共和體制一切都有關(guān)法律，大多數(shù)人(在民主體制下)很容易被欺騙。什么？國會(huì)撒謊了？對(duì)我們(撒謊)？哦，讓我看看，我們可以從盧西塔尼亞號(hào)、珍珠港事件、北部灣事件、911、伊拉克大規(guī)模殺傷性武器開始。。。。。Reader Commentsthese states know what's coming but unfortunately most american are just too stupid to see into the future. my prediction is that obama will leave office prematurely into his second term. why? because he's an idiot and his incompetence will cause an outcry from the american people. get ready for a rough ride america!這些州清楚將要面臨什么，但是不幸的是，大多數(shù)美國人如此愚蠢以至于看不到未來(要發(fā)生的事情)。我預(yù)計(jì)奧巴馬將在他的第二個(gè)任期內(nèi)早早卸職。為什么？因?yàn)樗莻�(gè)白癡，因?yàn)樗牟环Q職將引起美國人民的強(qiáng)烈控訴。準(zhǔn)備迎接一段艱難的歲月吧，美國！mike dUSANow we know why there was such a large amount of fema buying of hollow point ammunition.This was expectted and is justtified.現(xiàn)在我們知道為什么聯(lián)邦應(yīng)急管理局購買如此大量的空心點(diǎn)彈藥。這都是可預(yù)期的且事出有因。-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：Red___Sword-------------pedro mohrAustraliafederal government is so corrupt I'm surprised people aren't hunting down congressmen with torches and pitch forks in an angry mob. More power to this effort every state should tell the feds to go F themselves.聯(lián)邦政府這么腐敗，我對(duì)于人們沒有拿著火炬和草叉憤怒地對(duì)國會(huì)議員進(jìn)行窮追猛打。每個(gè)州應(yīng)該更加努力并讓聯(lián)邦政府他們?nèi)ニ腊伞2d2USARemove all Defense plants because they are not loyal to the US. Remove all nuclear weapons and components. No Interstate Funds, embargoed from trade in the US Defense Industry. Trains down to Texas and take all the nuclear weapons and components out of Pantex, Tx. Tennessee, remove all the Y-12 nuclear weapon plant from Oak Ridge, Tenn. Close ammunition works in Milan and Kingsport, the nuclear reactor fuels in Erwin, etc因?yàn)樗麄儾恢矣诿绹�，移走所有的軍工廠。移除所有核武器和組件。取締州際公路基金，在美國國防工業(yè)實(shí)行貿(mào)易禁運(yùn)。把火車開到德州，運(yùn)走潘特克斯核武工廠所有的核武器和組件。從田納西州橡樹嶺的核工廠移走所有的Y-12 。 關(guān)于位于米蘭和金斯波特的所有的彈藥工廠，關(guān)閉歐文的核反應(yīng)堆，等等。Jim PhelpsUSAPeople are angry and want smaller Government, more privacy and they want their rights and liberty left alone. The Tyrant US Government has nobody to blame except itself. The Obozo administration has some serious problems. Anne Texas can secure it's borders better than the Feds can , the local Militias are better than the government patrol as they will shoot back and not take crap from the invading illegal immigrant enemy force.人們感到非常憤怒并想要精簡點(diǎn)的政府機(jī)構(gòu)，想要更多的隱私，想保留他們的權(quán)利和自由。殘暴的美國政府是咎由自取。奧巴馬政府有著很多嚴(yán)重的問題。德州比聯(lián)邦更能保護(hù)好自己的邊境。當(dāng)?shù)孛駧沤M織也比政府巡邏隊(duì)要好，他們將回?fù)舳皇遣粫?huì)接受非法移民的狗屁說辭。-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：Red___Sword-------------Nailer45USAI'm ashamed to be from Texas, I will never approve of that, and who is allowed to make the this decisions for all of us!!!!我真為德克薩斯州感到羞愧，我從來不贊成(德州脫離聯(lián)邦)，并且誰有權(quán)利替我們所有人做這個(gè)決定�。。。exanUSAYes, sadly... we who even visit these articles are put on a list of possible revolutionaries etc... also known as home grown terrorists. There is much, much, much more to this story that is not covered in this article. We are covering it in great detail. Do searches on "Financial Tyranny" etc... www.facebook.com/BankAndPoliticianFinancialCorruption是的，這讓人感到悲哀。。。甚至我們這些訪問過這些文章的人都被列入一張革命分子名單里等等。。。還被稱為本土恐怖分子。還有很多很多故事，文章中沒有介紹。我們用大量的細(xì)節(jié)覆蓋了它。搜索“金融暴政”等。。。CoreyG/TexasUSAThere is also one for Idaho, if anyone would care to sign it. Doing anything, helps... If even a little... The feds are insane. This is the only rational action to take...如果任何人想簽署請(qǐng)?jiān)笗�，還有一個(gè)愛達(dá)荷州。做任何事，幫助。。。如果連這么一點(diǎn)。。。聯(lián)邦政府要瘋了。這是能采取的唯一的理性行為。。。-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：Red___Sword------------- Reader CommentsA lot of idiot americans do not understand why this is happening. With Obama and Diane Fiendstein planning on destroying the 2nd amendment, and with Obama planning FULL AMNESTY for ILLEGAL ALIENS during his 2nd term, anyone should be able to see why US Citizens want states to secede from The Union.很多白癡樣的美國人不理解發(fā)生這一切的原因。奧巴馬和Diane Fiendstein 計(jì)劃取締第二修正案且奧巴馬打算在他第二個(gè)總統(tǒng)任期內(nèi)，計(jì)劃對(duì)所有的非法入境者實(shí)行大赦。任何人都應(yīng)該看清為什么美國公民想要他們所在的州脫離聯(lián)邦。BFrankUSATake all of your fascist creatures and hit the door! We don't want you, your money or your rhetoric anymore. We only want to live free and prosperous without some creep putting their hands down our pants, some limp wrist "New Yawker" taking advantage of our hard earned cashed, or a line of half-wit corporate funded leaders who only serve those with money as their gods. DON'T TREAD ON ME.帶上你們所有的法西斯分子滾出去！我們?cè)僖膊恍枰銈�，再也不需要你們的錢和你們的巧辭令色。我們只想自由興旺地生活，不想要一些讓人惡心的人把他們的手放在我們的褲子底下，一些軟弱的“老鄉(xiāng)”利用我們的努力坐享其成，或一些弱智公司資助視金錢為上帝的人作為領(lǐng)導(dǎo)者。別想在太歲頭上動(dòng)土！-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：Red___Sword-------------Vincent C.USAWhat Border Patrol?邊境巡邏隊(duì)在干什么？Larry EnglekeUSAMilitary is from each state, I wonder how many will stand with their state instead of the Feds? Texas doesn't need help with border patrol, I think they can get the under control themselves. And the Federal funds come from the taxes the states send to the feds, so those that seceded simply wouldn't send any money to the feds, hence actually increasing their own finances while sticking it to the feds by denying them money they're planning on getting. Try again.軍隊(duì)來自于各個(gè)州，我想知道有多少士兵會(huì)支持他們州的立場而不支持聯(lián)邦的立場？德克薩斯州不需要邊境巡邏隊(duì)的幫助，我認(rèn)為他們自己可以控制。聯(lián)邦基金收取各州的稅金交給聯(lián)邦政府，因此那些要求脫離聯(lián)邦的州將不再給錢給聯(lián)邦政府，因此實(shí)際上增加了他們自己的財(cái)政收入而對(duì)聯(lián)邦政府堅(jiān)稱(這些州)他們錢的用途。有著他們自己的計(jì)劃。再試試。AnneUSAThis is a bunch of cry baby nonsense. The person they wanted didn't win so they're not going to play with us anymore. If you go to the website, half of these petitions are not even signed by the residents of their own state. If Texas can get $25,000 people from Texas to sign, great, don't let the door hit ya on the way out and oh by the way, we'll take all of our military, all of our border patrol and all of our federal funding with us.這就跟哭鬧的嬰兒一樣胡說八道。他們支持的人沒有贏得選舉，他們就要退出。如果你去(白宮)網(wǎng)站上上看看，(你會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn))一般的請(qǐng)?jiān)干踔炼疾皇沁@些州的公民所簽署的。 如果德克薩斯州能讓25000名本州公民簽署請(qǐng)?jiān)笗�，很好，千萬別讓門擋著你的路。順便說一句，我們將掌控所有的軍隊(duì)，所有的邊境巡邏隊(duì)并且我們將自己使用所有的聯(lián)邦基金。-------------譯者：貓記 審核者：Red___Sword-------------NYer not signing anythingUSAIt will be better for these states and for USA. All of them can form government which suites their need. Consequently world will be safe from grab wars. Alternatively US can adopt truer democratic elections learning from Germany. One gets puzzled over US sermons to other countries over democracy while its own system is not truely representative.這對(duì)這些州和美國來說是兩全其美的好事。他們都能建立一個(gè)符合自己需求的政府。世界就不會(huì)發(fā)生爭地戰(zhàn)爭從而變得更加安全。另一種選擇是，美國能跟德國學(xué)學(xué)真正地民主。當(dāng)美國自己的體制不能真正成為民主典范卻向其他國家宣揚(yáng)民主，這讓人覺得困惑。Inayat AliUnited KingdomThis is good news for the people of those States. It makes sense to secede in view of the fact that there is a wide divide in how various States look at each other.對(duì)這些州的人們來說，這是個(gè)好消息。這回脫離聯(lián)邦的事情證明在各個(gè)州如何看待對(duì)方的這件事上，存在一個(gè)廣泛的分歧。從這點(diǎn)上來說，它是有意義的。
作者：MisaAmane2012-11-25 19:08
如果德州脫離聯(lián)邦，一周之內(nèi)，德州就會(huì)被墨西哥的販毒集團(tuán)所控制。因?yàn)槲疑踔敛幻靼姿麄優(yōu)槭裁聪胍@么做。+10086
作者：逐日審判2012-11-25 19:12
這么長沒什么人看的，雖然我看完了。。。
作者：kknlnok2012-11-25 19:17
支持美帝人民 追求自由民主的權(quán)利
